“Afternoon is plain. Ten pages make the brisk walk from Wagner’s minor chords to the low sliding grunt of the Minotaur.”
- excerpt from Grunt of the Minotaur
Robin Richardson is 26-years-old and recently launched her debut collection of poetry Grunt of the Minotaur (Insomniac Press, 2011). She is a Toronto native pursuing her MFA in poetry at Sarah Lawrence College in New York City. Her work has appeared in many Canadian and international literary journals including Cv2, The Puritan, The Toronto Quarterly, Filling Station, The Cortland Review, The Berkeley Poetry Review, Misunderstandings Magazine, All Rights Reserved, Dandelion, and The Literary Review of Canada. She is the recipient of the Joan T Baldwin Award for writing and visual art and, with the generosity of the Ontario Arts Council, is currently working on her second collection of poems, Nervosa.
WHEN RETIRING FOR THE NIGHT
Appoint the various domestic disorders
in separate rooms. It's impossible to master
lights. Each separate occasion
rising for distinction in the lamp.
Keep the fire burning. Glad to wrap the heads
of guests in non-specific yellow gas. The gardener
may trip his shears: a finger lost and pointing
at your room: Ignore the creaking
wooden headboards, punctual shift
in temperature, with a book. The passage
may seem difficult, may be excused for
honest avails of sex or finger play.
This is how the mistress takes her nap, established
in the praises of useless conduct. She may wish
to part the brackets, politely printed
in a letter of introduction. Take the dusted
words to bed, acknowledge, politely, the beauty
of her guests. Though their husbands polish
themselves inside her and the windows
pout for want of her slightly parted petticoat.
FALSE SKETCHES ON A BEDPOST
Hers was a yellow flag rousing back and forth
above the houses.
She wondered what, if anything, she'd forgotten -
the front door a tomb.
She yawned, shut her book, crying, "Yes, yes," and
why not wrap the pillow with her legs.
The boy could have been a field, flock
of birds. She thought of his beard,
about the thinness of her own fingers,
union of her thoughts and the climate
of her thighs. She tried, again,
to remember dull trifles of the day
threatening her pleasure. There was the street,
stifled pets, respectable neighbours sleeping.
"No," she cried, "this is not what I am for!"
The empty room, nightlight agreed,
speaking tulip till she came.
TTQ – When did you begin writing poetry, and do you find that poetry is the best venue for you to express yourself?
Robin Richardson - I’ve always wanted to be a writer. I’ve attempted a few novels and still plan on writing one successfully some day. I didn’t start writing poetry until about five years ago, when I had to for a creative writing class in undergrad. I found that the lyric allowed me to explore ideas and sounds that prose didn’t. I’ve been addicted to poetry ever since, and find that the more I practice and learn about it, the more I’m amazed by what it’s capable of.
TTQ – When you say that you’re amazed by the power of poetry and what it’s capable of, what do you mean by that exactly?
Robin Richardson – Well, with fictional prose you are limited to working with sentences and their variations. Generally you use those sentences to build believable narratives using characters, conflicts, settings etc. In poetry the form of the sentence is merely a starting point and even that needs to be adhered to in the strictest sense. In poetry you are free to integrate line, caesura, rhyme, metrical variation, etc. The list goes on almost indefinitely as new poetic units and devices are being invented all the time. Aside from the freedom of form in poetry, its content is not limited by the rules of narrative. A poem can be merely about sound or consciousness, it can be an examination of a single thought, object, or emotion, or a string of hundreds connected in any way the poet might imagine. With poetry I’m not tied down to my subject matter the way a novelist is, and may write about an abandoned mannequin factory one day, in one poem, and about an executioner’s dirty shoelace in the next. I get the sense that, with poetry, the possibilities are endless and that there is still so much space for experimentation. This is not to say, however, that I wouldn’t love to sit down and test my discipline by attempting a novel or two in my lifetime.
TTQ – Was there one particular book of poetry or individual poet that inspired or heavily influenced your decision to start writing?
Robin Richardson – Because I used to read fiction more than poetry my two biggest influences in the past decade are fiction writers, albeit they are very poetic in their prose. They are Virginia Woolf and Cormac McCarthy. I’ve read To the Lighthouse and Blood Meridian over five times each. They are both on my desk as I write this and I have no doubt I’ll be flipping through them again at least once before the week is over. It’s funny because Woolf and McCarthy are two very different writers with very different preoccupations, but I find that that polarity helps me with my own work. I want to achieve the lingering, immense sensitivity of Virginia Woolf, while creating a very real, unapologetic landscape that the reader can’t help but be effected by, as McCarthy does.
If we go way back into some of the first books I ever read and loved, the books that made me want to write even as I was ten or twelve, I’d say Jack London’s Call of the Wild was a big one, and of course as a little Canadian girl I was very much seduced by Leonard Cohen…his writing, music, and public persona made being a poet seem like a fantastical thing.
TTQ – At what point in your life did you become comfortable with calling yourself a poet?
Robin Richardson – I got into Sarah Lawrence’s graduate writing program within the same three months that I got a book deal with Insomniac Press for my first collection of poems, Grunt of the Minotaur. Before then I’d done readings and was getting into journals fairly regularly but those two factors made it clear to me that it was safe to start calling myself a poet…though I still use the term sparingly as it tends to be a bit of a conversation killer. Most people take the word “poet” to be synonymous with “unemployed.”
TTQ – What was your experience like studying at Sarah Lawrence, and to what extent do you feel that experience has made you a better poet/writer?
Robin Richardson - Studying at Sarah Lawrence was without a doubt one of the best things I’ve done for my writing. The program allows students to have frequent one-on-one time with faculty members, in addition to the scheduled class time. I was able to go over my work and talk craft intimately with some of my favourite writers and teachers including Matthea Harvey, Stephen Dobyns, Suzanne Gardinier etc. This time was invaluable. In addition to the required craft classes and workshops, the program allows graduate students to audit any graduate or undergraduate classes that they want, in any discipline, provided the class isn’t full. There are also frequent free talks from editors, agents, writers, scholars etc…offered almost daily in the graduate house.
Aside from these obvious academic perks, I also found that being surrounded by people who were as passionate as I am about poetry helped instil optimism in me, that there are readers out there who care deeply about the art. This really helps when I start to slip into wondering if poetry might be a futile endeavour.
TTQ – How invaluable was the advice given to you by some of the speakers who gave free talks at the graduate house, and was there a common theme or mantra that you took away from those talks that has helped you become a better poet/writer?
Robin Richardson – There was never a common theme or mantra provided by the speakers and professors at Sarah Lawrence. I think that’s what was so valuable about it. There was an overwhelming diversity in the views and lecture styles of everyone whom I worked with while I was attending. I was exposed to so many strong opinions, which very often stood in direct opposition to one another. While one speaker stressed the importance of networking and strategic publishing, another would forcefully insist that the only thing a writer should be concerned with should be the craft of writing itself. Hearing accomplished authors, editors, and publishers disagree with such polarity helped free me up from the notion that there was any single correct way to approach writing. I let their words wash over me and I came out with a stronger sense of my own perspective on writing in all of its facets.
TTQ – What differences did you find between the poetry communities of New York and Toronto?
Robin Richardson – The main difference between New York's literary scene and Toronto's is size. Toronto is small enough that everyone knows everyone within a short span of time. I've never been to a reading in Toronto where I didn't recognize at least half of the poets/writers there. New York still has a bit of that community sense, but is large enough that there is much more variety in both readers and audience members.
TTQ – What turns you on creatively, spiritually and emotionally?
Robin Richardson - I can’t really think of anything that doesn’t have the capacity of getting me riled up. The fact that I exist at all is pretty damned dumbfounding, so every minute of this craziness is a huge turn on. Yay! I’m one of the random, happy “accidents” who get to tramp around this world.
TTQ – Your debut collection of poetry is called Grunt of the Minotaur (Insomniac Press, 2011). How did you come up with the title and is there a specific meaning behind it?
Robin Richardson – I had a hard time coming up with a title so my editor, Paul Vermeersch, and I sat down one day and searched through the poems in the collection for something that might make a good title. We made a few lists, crossed out a few options, and sat with what was left for several weeks. Grunt of the Minotaur was what came out of that process. I think Paul was the one to spot it first. It’s the last few words of the poem Citing Dimensions of Mad and Mundane Council on page 17.
Once we settled on it as a title I started really thinking about the words on their own outside of the poem, and I think it works really well with the book, which has a lot of labyrinthine entanglement and nitty-gritty monster moments. I also really love the Minotaur as both a savage and somewhat sympathetic character. He was the bastard son of Pasiphaë, King Minos’ wife, and was the result of adulterous bestiality. When King Minos received the gift of a beautiful, white bull from Poseidon and refused to kill it in Posieden’s honour, Aphrodite cast a spell on Pasiphaë, which made her fall deeply in love with the bull. Pasiphaë donned a wooden cow suit and made love to the bull, resulting in the conception of the Minotaur.
I’m now a bit obsessed with this story and plan to integrate it somehow into my newer work.
TTQ – Were all the poems contained in Grunt of the Minotaur a compilation of your life's work to date, and how difficult was the process of deciding which poems would be published in the book and what would be left out?
Robin Richardson – It wasn’t too difficult a process. Luckily, for now, my work seems to be improving over time. It was clear that the newer work in the book was generally better than the older work. I simply cut out anything that was weak, and replaced it with something newer and hopefully better. I’m not the type to get attached to my own poems, so if it’s not up to snuff I have no problem trashing it. The point is to create a good book.
TTQ – Who helped you with editing Grunt of the Minotaur and what was that experience like for you?
Robin Richardson – Paul Vermeesch was the main editor of the book. I really lucked out because he took the time to walk me through the process, letting me know what to expect while the book was being put together, as well as once it came out. At the time the manuscript was accepted I had little to no official poetry education, though I had been published in journals here and there, and done workshops and public readings. Paul was extremely patient with me, acting as a mentor as much as an editor.
TTQ – Your poem 'Didac' from Grunt of the Minotaur was published in The Toronto Quarterly and is a personal favourite of mine. What is the story behind that poem?
Robin Richardson – Didac is about a man I boarded with in Barcelona for a few months when I was about eighteen. He was a painter, and the owner of a four bedroom flat in the Gothic Quarter, which he generally rented out to artists and students. I lived there with him, a German mountain climber, a Columbian film student, and a Spanish philosopher who’d just completed his Master’s in Los Angeles. Everyone in the apartment spoke Spanish except me, for that, among other reasons, tensions in the apartment rose quickly.
In the poem Didac I took the very real event of Didac bathing with the door open, in clear view of the dinner table as we ate. I thought this moment was so odd and surreal and wanted to use it as the starting point for writing about what it felt like to be alone and slightly disoriented in a strange land.
I’ve since been back to Barcelona and had a much more pleasant experience this time around, as I shared a flat with two very talented artists and two adorable Persian cats.
TTQ – Do you have a favourite poem from your book that you like best or enjoy reading most when you're out doing poetry readings and various promotional events?
Robin Richardson – I really enjoy reading the poem When Paying Visits of Condolence out loud. It’s a fairly dark poem and a bit visceral. I find it casts an interesting mood over the room when I read it. It’s like I was saying before, it seems to become an object of its own, so that through its recitation I’ve spun a gloomy little ball and thrown it into the audience.
WHEN PAYING VISITS OF CONDOLENCE
To courteously desire the deceased,
one should be dressed in silk,
be slight of word, coo, pretend to give a kiss
when sniffing the seasoned marrow.
Like a mule, brush the rug with suede,
tap the pound cake, clutch
pie, caramelized to hide the taste.
If foul play is suspected, flood the glass
with cognac, keep rumours to a hush.
The doorframe cramped with hands
and winter hats at hooks like hangmen. To lick
the velvet pouch, let a hand slip down
past the necktie, is the failure of a man
to keep his starched and eggshell grin in place.
Think not of flowerbeds, though far
and harmless. It's rude to couple
where the buried bruise the pebbled hills.
TTQ – How would you best describe your writing style?
Robin Richardson - That’s tough. I try to keep my words rooted in the tangible so that I can get away with some fairly far off, surreal ideas. I use a lot of concrete nouns and verbs and try to avoid too many abstractions. Sound and rhythm are paramount, as is an appeal to the senses. I want my poems to become objects. There’s a book I’m reading right now Today I Wrote Nothing by Daniil Kharms, in which I’ve found a passage that best describes the sort of thing I want from my own work, It isn’t just words or thoughts printed on paper, it is the thing as real as a crystal inkwell standing in front of me on the table. It seems that these verses have become a thing, and one can take them off the page and throw them at the window, and the window would break. That’s what words can do.
TTQ – What is your favourite word and why?
Robin Richardson – Yikes, there are so many beautiful words. Right now I’m hung up on the word ampersand. 1) Because it sounds lovely. 2) Because it summons that very beautiful shape: &.
TTQ – How important is reading your poetry in front of a live audience and what is that experience like for you personally?
Robin Richardson – Lately, I’m finding reading my work in front of an audience to be more and more important. It gives an immediate sense of how the poem is working and allows me to get out of the bubble I exist in when I’m working, and out into the social world for a change. I’ve also discovered lately that a poet really has the capacity to teach the reader how to read his or her work. John Berryman is a good example of this. I’d read the Dream Songs and was a big fan, but after I saw a YouTube video of Berryman reading Dream Song #29 everything changed. I feel like I understand him on a whole other level and have since reread the book, using Berryman’s unique oral cadence as a guide.
TTQ – What is your writing process like and do you write poetry every day or only when you feel inspired?
Robin Richardson – Generally, I write every day for at least three hours. First thing in the morning I eat a decent sized breakfast and then head out to a nearby café for at least two hours where I will either: compose, edit, read, or take notes…anything that contributes to my work. Once I’ve put in those initial hours I feel free to get on with the rest of my day, which may or may not involve another big writing session towards the evening.
TTQ – How important is alcohol to you and your writing process?
Robin Richardson – I write horribly when I’m drunk, though, I do love a nice glass of whiskey while I’m working. Not enough to get fuzzy, just enough to warm the chest and keep me starry-eyed. Like I said though, I do most of my writing in the morning, at which time a big cup of black coffee, no sugar, does the trick.
TTQ – What was your favourite book of 2011 and why?
Robin Richardson – There are so many! I’m gonna go with Timothy Donnelly’s The Cloud Corporation, mainly because it’s in my line of sight right now and I was just flipping through it again the other day for inspiration. It’s well-crafted, rich, and so diverse in form and content, I feel like I get more value out of it per page than I do out of almost any other contemporary collection of poems.
TTQ – Would you consider yourself a feminist or political activist, and do you think poets of today should lend their voices more often to protest events like for example: Occupy Toronto?
Robin Richardson – No and no. I do have strong values and opinions and I hope that they reveal themselves naturally through my work.
TTQ – What profession other than your own would you like to attempt one day and why?
Robin Richardson – Between the ages of five and fifteen I was a competitive gymnast. I grew out of it and it’s way too late to go back, but if I could, I would very much like to be a practicing gymnast or dance again. Cirque du Soleil was always a dream of mine.
TTQ – What's next for Robin Richardson?
Robin Richardson – I’m well into my second collection of poems that includes a long narrative about a volcano-dwelling Ogre called, Dzoavits, and his new obsession with a five-year-old girl named, Thora. It’s very dark and dirty, and filled with fun taboos.
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